# Completely empty project

**URL:** https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/t/completely-empty-project/11774
**Category:** Ideas
**Created:** [November 3, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/t/completely-empty-project/11774 "2024-11-03T15:06:50Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author: ![hoverek](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/user_avatar/forum.bootstrapstudio.io/hoverek/32/4670_2.png) [@hoverek](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/u/hoverek)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/t/completely-empty-project/11774/1 "2024-11-03T15:06:50Z")

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It would be nice if BS had the ability to create designs without adding the Bootstrap library (None option in design creation dialog).

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### Author: ![printninja](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/user_avatar/forum.bootstrapstudio.io/printninja/32/481_2.png) [@printninja](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/u/printninja)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/t/completely-empty-project/11774/2 "2024-11-04T01:51:12Z")

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I really don’t see the rationale for this. If you’re not going to take advantage of the Bootstrap framework, then why use Bootstrap Studio? All the Bootstrap components would be useless because they’d be unstyled while having non-existent default classes applied to them. The code would be a mess.

You’d have to write custom CSS for everything, and if you’re going to do that, you may as well just build your website using a text editor like Notepad++ or Visual Studio.

I don’t normally recommend software that isn’t BSS, but you might want to look at this…

> **[The HTML Editor | CoffeeCup Software](https://www.coffeecup.com/html-editor/)**
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> HTML Editor, CSS Editor, Quick start from Templates. The HTML Editor from CoffeeCup Software has it all! And with free support it is the default choice.

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### Author: ![hoverek](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/user_avatar/forum.bootstrapstudio.io/hoverek/32/4670_2.png) [@hoverek](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/u/hoverek)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 10:54am UTC](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/t/completely-empty-project/11774/3 "2024-11-04T10:54:14Z")

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You linked to a regular HTML editor… They also have something like BSS on their site, but it costs $60 and I don’t plan on spending that much money again. Also, the “None” option would remove Bootstrap components to prevent the conflicts you mentioned.

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### Author: ![catkin](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/user_avatar/forum.bootstrapstudio.io/catkin/32/4993_2.png) [@catkin](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/u/catkin)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/t/completely-empty-project/11774/4 "2024-11-04T15:51:04Z")

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I don’t quite get it, once you remove Bootstrap from Bootstrap Studio all you’re left with is a drag and drop HTML editor. You’d have to write all your own CSS, unless you’d expect it to come with a lightweight CSS library, then you’ve just made Lightweight CSS Studio.

When it comes to making sites that don’t use Bootstrap Studio I don’t see needing a drag and drop editor, since writing HTML doesn’t need to be visual, and loads of code editors have auto complete options and flag errors you’ve made. I just write the boiler plate, open the HTML and then use Chrome Dev tools to write the CSS and finish the site.

That’s obviously just my opinion, and clearly there’s a market for these drag and drop HTML editors.

I’d recommend looking at Visual Studio by Microsoft, it’s free and there is loads of plugins that can emulate these features you’re looking for. If you are genuinely interested I can try find them for you.

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### Author: ![printninja](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/user_avatar/forum.bootstrapstudio.io/printninja/32/481_2.png) [@printninja](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/u/printninja)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/t/completely-empty-project/11774/5 "2024-11-04T19:57:20Z")

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Simply removing the bootstrap.min.css and util.js wouldn’t remove the classes from the drag-and-drop components. They would have to rewrite the program to do that, or somehow delete (or gray out) all the components that have Bootstrap dependencies.

At best, all you’d be left with is a handful of drag-and-drop components that do not use Bootstrap.

You might want to look at Pinegrow. It has the ability to create plain HTML websites and still uses a visual UI to allow you to style the elements. But if you don’t want to spend any more money, then Pinegrow is definitely out, so I’d suggest going with @catkin’s suggestion and use Visual Studio, or Atom. They are free.

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### Author: ![GregoryAM](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/user_avatar/forum.bootstrapstudio.io/gregoryam/32/5101_2.png) [@GregoryAM](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/u/GregoryAM)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.bootstrapstudio.io/t/completely-empty-project/11774/6 "2024-11-05T16:11:46Z")

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> Just saying this to be funny:
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> "Removing Bootstrap from Bootstrap Studio?
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> Wouldn’t it just be called Studio… Visual (html) Studio?"

Just get Visual Studio by Microsoft.

It’s just Bootstrap Studio without the Bootstrap and you can add in your own CSS libraries, JS libraries and use other frameworks.

You can also install the extension “Live Server” to view your website in the browser with hot reload.

Plus, added bonus! Bootstrap Studio and VS Code are written in Electron!

I’m also sure there are NPM packages that can also create the Drag-and-Drop features.

There’s also other Drag-and-Drop programs available that don’t rely on Bootstrap.
