Integration of ChatGPT API into BSS to generate Components and more

Having tried the new ChatGPT4, and honestly, I’m blown away by what it can do! :exploding_head: It got me thinking, wouldn’t it be awesome to have it integrated into BSS? I mean, imagine generating components, website content…

Now, I know there might be some concerns about the one off lifetime license and API cost but this could be a total game-changer! @martin any plans around these new AI things?

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ChatGPT 3 has already been incorporated in Pinegrow. I don’t have an OpenAI account (I won’t give them my cell phone number,) so I don’t know the specifics of what it does within Pinegrow, but I believe it’s been well received.

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It is unbelievably good! I’m not even close to being a web developer, but I managed to recreate a website design I really admire just by copying and pasting codes and I learned a lot through the explanations you get as you play around with different prompts to achieve the perfect look and functionality. It took me quite some time, mostly because I wasn’t familiar with the code, but I can see how it could be a huge time saver for someone who knows their way around CSS and so on…

That’s generally what I’ve been hearing from people, but I’d imagine that someone who knows their way around CSS probably wouldn’t need to query a chatbot for explanations on how to write CSS unless it was something really exotic (which is certainly possible considering how much CSS has advanced in recent years.)

Where it would probably help me greatly would be in learning JavaScript, as I could describe something I want to do, let ChatGPT create the code, and then have it explain to me line-by-line what the code is doing.

But ultimately, even if ChatGPT can write the complete HTML, CSS and JS for a website, I would still want to learn all those languages myself because I wouldn’t want to rely on a tool to make my living when that tool’s future is still very much in flux. The free beta of ChatGPT is almost certainly going to become a paid app in the future, and given the past trend of “miraculous free software” I’m sure that the more they see people making money with it, the more expensive it will become. I remember when LogMeIn was free. It was a massive game-changer for those of us in IT who had to access client’s computers. It saved me a LOT of driving to people’s businesses. Then, they slowly they started cutting back on the number of free computers you could access. Eventually it was cut down to two, and then they started charging $12.99 for the two, and then $19.99, and now it’s one of the most expensive remote desktop tools on the market - $30 a month for two computers, and $70 a month for five.

I also have issue with OpenAI forcing people to give them their cell phone numbers to access ChatGPT. I have no doubt that at some point in the future, those numbers are going to end up where people won’t want them.

Funny… as I was typing this, I got an invite from Google to be a beta-tester for Bard (their version of ChatGPT.)

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Its really good for boilerplate code and also for giving hints and ideas how to fix x, but in product apps, bigger ones where you got more unique cases and you have to adapt solutions to the environment it is not replaceable for real developer, so in conclusion its really good for most of ppl and its really impressive, but for specialist making more advanced things its not that much effective, it still can bring cool ideas, but it would have to be integrated into ide and project like copilot to be as effective as it is for more common cases altho v4 is hella impressive i still barely use it. Usually i use it when i cant find satisfying solution for my problem and v3 could give me amazing hints how to fix or make something. Its great technology, but i dont really see it in bss waste of time to me.

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Your points are spot on printninja.
You can guarantee, to start it’s to get everyone hooked, then once they are the restrictions & charges will come.

The inch by inch scenario or the thin end of the wedge.

@printninja they already have a paid version4 for $20 in my area, and I can understand why I might occasionally pay this. For non-programmers like most of us here, any project, whether small, large, simple, or complex, can seem daunting. So the choice comes down to hiring assistance (Which can cost more) or paying $20 to first try and tackle it myself using the text prompt. The remarkable aspect is how much I’ve learned the basics typically acquired through hours of YouTube videos.

As for the phone number requirement, it’s likely for security purposes to deter bot accounts. Since I need my clients to reach me by phone, I don’t have any issues sharing my number, it is already out there anyway.

@printninja I’d love to hear your thoughts after giving Google’s bald a try.

Having chatgpt in Bootstrap Studio is an interesting suggestion! I imagine that you wish to use it as a page generator? So for example “Generate a landing page for a pet shop with the following content…”?

The other possible usage scenario I can think of is a way to instruct the app to do various actions like “make my columns half the width on desktop, and full width on mobile”. However since Bootstrap Studio is a visual editor in the first place it will always be easier to click a couple of buttons than to type all of that.

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Yes, It can be handy as first page generator and i can go on and use the visual editor to refine the page. One of the limitations of relying solely on a button-based interface is that i need to have prior knowledge of each button’s function and the correct sequence to achieve the desired outcome. With a prompt I can more easily describe my intended goal in a couple of sentences.

The way i see it, Is a combination of the visual editor and text based prompting could be quite a faster workflow for some and open up new possibilities.

Do you foresee any major limitations integrating this into the BSS?

I’ve been using the writing tools on tinywow to create copy for some of my websites, and it’s been enormously helpful. It cuts the amount of time I used to spend writing from hours to minutes. Tinywow has a lot of good tools on their site, but their writing tools are pretty much the only “AI generative” tools. They don’t have anything as sophisticated as ChatGPT. Nothing that can create code or generate website pages. But here’s what I like about them…

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@printninja
Here is the link freegpt.one for GPT 3.5 turbo, witch does not ask for a mobile number. You can pretty much play around with it without logging in.

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Thanks so much @Marinator! I will check this out!

I took it for a spin on day one with PineGrow and I liked it. @Martin has a valid argument about how beneficial would it be in BSS. And I am sure it could be.

I use it daily for code. It’s great for a quick conversion of JQuery to Javascript etc. But in my experience with it on the code side, you still need to know code to get the most out of it, it’s not copy and paste all the time (yet). The other day it gave me code calling functions that didn’t exist.

I have also started to use it for copy and SEO.

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@Martin MacGPT is an app that was recently released. It just got a big update that allows inline ChatGPT. I have tested it in some apps and it works great. Awesome for content in a page builder, which is where I have tried it. It doesn’t work in BSS though ? :man_shrugging: I am not even sure what is required for some apps to work and others to not. WhatsApp is another one it wont work in.

eg. Here I asked it to summaries BSS in 100 words, directly in the editor prefixing with “:gpt” and shift return.

I’ve been using A.I. for improving my copywriting quite a bit lately. I tend to write with too much verbosity, and the A.I. reduces my writing without changing the message.

Haven’t really played with it much in terms of coding, but I will definitely be using it to learn JavaScript. Being able to convert jQuery to vanilla JS will be very useful to me.

I also got my invite to beta test Google Bard and I did a quick look the other day. It seems very similar to ChatGPT, albeit a bit slower. I’ve barely used either one, so I’m not really qualified to review either.

Based on people I know who have tested out Bard, they came away rather embarrassed for Google.

Can you try if it works in the browser demo on our website?

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Hi @Martin, I gave the web demo a go, and yes it works fine there. For it to run you press shift + Return, so that may be something stopping it running in the app maybe?

@malachiman This is quite impressive, Do you know any similar app for windows?

Hi @karatrick, I’m pretty much exclusive Mac these days, so sorry can’t help there. The inline feature is the first I’ve seen for the million ChatGPT apps that are starting to turn up though.

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